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Leon Voss •
#23

breakdown is 61.3% Asian, 21.4% White, 12.1% "multiracial" (I assume mostly Asian+White), 2.3% Hispanic, 2.3% Pacific Islander (huh?), and 0.6% Black. Way too many Asians, there's no way there's that many 145+ IQ Asians compared to whites worldwide, much less in the USA. They definitely break the tests by studying too much. Also those SAT scores are more like 135 even among whites, so it's weird they want 145 WISC. Still, better than the trashy public school nightmare Rachel Emery attended. Why didn't her parents just have her drop out? I guess it's easier with online programs now, which wouldn't have existed in 2001. Genius Denied looks like an interesting book, I'll probably read it this month. Poor girl. I hope she got married and had a lot of kids. I bet finding an intelligent husband who cultivated her intellect like Will and Ariel Durant would have alleviated her depression.

Leon Voss •
#77

"140 IQ kids waste half their time in school". If IQ is interval this suggests 30 IQ points cover half of school, so school is made for 110 IQ kids who waste no time, is too hard for people under, 80 IQers need double the time, 125 IQers waste a quarter of their time. This implies the following college graduation ages. 110 IQ: 22 125 IQ: 18 140 IQ: 14 155 IQ: 10 170 IQ: Already like a college graduate at 6 years old?

Leon Voss • • reply to #77
#78

Hard to believe college at 6 or 7 is just IQ considering I have never heard of this guy. Also why does he need a chaperone if he's adult level intelligence? Would they make a midget have a chaperone?

neroli • • edited • reply to #78
#80

The Davidson Institute has written much about asynchronous development. A gifted individual still in his childhood is not an adult in a child's body, and the concept that cognitive maturity is a prix fixe menu of capacities developed in lockstep is part of the reason gifted kids' educational needs are so downplayed. The claim that a certain level of verbal and mathematical ability is inherently bundled with readiness to navigate independent adult life kind of implies that kids who aren't yet socially adept, emotionally regulated, and ready to navigate independent adult life can't handle verbal and mathematical material at or above that level, even when they clearly demonstrate otherwise. Davidson camps are appreciated because they're environments where profoundly gifted kids still get to be the kids that they are while their abilities aren't held back, where "I'm capable of greater cognitive feats than most" and "I still want and deserve a proper childhood" are understood not to be contradictory statements. I believe six year old children need to be safeguarded regardless of how asynchronous their development is.

Leon Voss • • reply to #80
#81

A lot of this does not directly address the need for a chaperone. readiness to navigate independent adult life kind of implies that kids who aren't yet socially adept, emotionally regulated, I don't think walking around a campus without getting lost or dying requires one to be socially adept or emotionally regulated? It's extra funny because normal kids around that age before 2000 would just roam around outside on bikes unsupervised. I think some kid on a surveilled college campus will be safe from car traffic and child abductors. Parents have legitimate authority over their children Not when their children are smarter than them. Unadjusted for age of course, I'm sure a brilliant toddler is dumber than his mother but legitimate parenting can end at 12 or 13 in a lot of cases where a child is like 20 points smarter than his or her parents. "I still want and deserve a proper childhood" A "proper childhood" is forced egalitarian schooling, is it not? "socially adept, emotionally regulated" sounds a lot like EQ -- are they even measurable? How do you know if smart kids have deficits in these relative to their IQs for sure? 125+ IQ 12 year olds can be treated like normal adults, or even above-average adults, really without any problem in my experience. There seems to be no important age-related deficit that is not IQ. It stands to reason that as kids get younger, you can treat them like normal adults if you increase their IQ enough, to the 145+ range.

neroli • • reply to #81
#83

A "proper childhood" is forced egalitarian schooling, is it not? It's not? One can still be living as a kid rather than an adult and still learn material that's calibrated to his cognitive level instead of work that's too easy for him.

Leon Voss • • reply to #83
#85

can still be living as a kid rather than an adult What's that mean? Free housing? A lot of people have that into their 20s. Some even get it from the government for their whole lives.

neroli • • reply to #85
#86

I'm going to have to disagree with you that high IQ asynchronously developed kids are ready to navigate independent adult life so soon. My IQ is higher than my parents' but I clearly wasn't ready to raise myself at 12. Nonetheless, I look forward to you sharing more excerpts.

Leon Voss • • reply to #86
#88

But how much higher is your IQ? Both my wife and I were above median adult intelligence at 12. She also says she could have made her own decisions pretty easily at that age.

Leon Voss • • reply to #77
#79

Slurs for intelligence are weird. Shouldn't normies admire higher intelligence? Normies are such terrible narcissists.

neroli • • reply to #79
#82

Kids don't necessarily know a peer's IQ and what it indicates. There are high IQ youth who are socially adept, outgoing, athletic, attractive, etc, who were never seen as targets for bullying, so clearly it's not intelligence they're after. Those who keep to themselves, are into interests and subcultures that others find weird, and are socially out of touch with peers are inevitably going to be targets; they don't admire all that.

Leon Voss • • reply to #82
#84

There are high IQ youth who are socially adept, outgoing So they hide their IQs? Those who keep to themselves, are into interests and subcultures that others find weird, So those who don't hide their IQs? I think you're a bit too charitable to average people with your usage of the concept "weird" and "social skills." They largely mean if average people approve of you or not. The real reason they don't like someone remains hidden. It can very well be superior intelligence.

Leon Voss • • reply to #77
#94

High school should be abolished, huge waste of time. Smart students should just study at the high school level in middle school and then go to university where there are smart lecturers instead of dumb NEA members.

Leon Voss • • reply to #77
#95

Schoools are supposed to be for the smart. Sports leagues should be for the low IQ. But it's like the low IQ "colonize" schools. Crazy.

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